Josh Marshall has free passes for Georgia

post from Out Of Iraq Bloggers Caucus on 12 September 2008 01:05:00 AM. © Out Of Iraq Bloggers Caucus

Well, actually, the TPM honchos freebies are for the Obama-Biden campaign on Georgia, as Josh claims it has a significant difference with McCain-Palin on this issue.

Here?s Josh:

It's true that Obama and Biden both favor Georgia's accession into NATO -- a very bad policy position, as I've argued before. However, I do not think that their positions and McCain's positions are equal. The best analogy I can point to is the nominal agreement on Iraq policy (embodied in the Iraq Liberation Act) between the Clinton administration and the most radical neocons in the late 1990s. Nominally, they shared a policy. In practice, however, it was one group that was completely nuts and gung-ho in favor of a reckless idea and another that was sort of dabbling in and passively favoring the same policy. Not that that is saying much in the latter's favor. But there's a big difference.

And, here?s my response:

Given the ultimate reason WHY both political campaigns of the ?bipartisan foreign policy establishment? want Georgia in NATO ? a three-letter word called ?oil? ? I think your ?Clinton ain?t a neocon? analogy doesn?t carry the freight, Josh.

BOTH campaigns favor the same thing ? NATO membership. Neither has proposed NATO observer status or some other ?NATO lite.?

Both campaigns, in essence, we?re willing to back Georgia in a war against Russia.

(Either that, or they?re lying through their teeth.)

As I?ve said before on my blog, this bears a lot of parallels to Iraq, which Obama criticized in 2002. In this case, we?ve got a ?friendly? regime already in power, it?s just a question of keeping it in power for oil access, which NATO membership would ramp up.

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Late Late Nite FDL: Old Geezer Edition

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Solving the Immigration and Job Outsourcing
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Clueless in the Klondike

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E.J. Dionne: "McCain has shown he wants the presidency so badly that he's willing to say anything, true or false, to win power. Obama can win by fighting for what he believes. What he can't do is wait for the media to call McCain out -- although they[...]

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Clueless Sarah Palin: ABC Interview

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Sarah Palin shows her inexperience on foreign policy issues. She's quite defensive as well.

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When asked about national security, she changes to topic to energy independence.

GIBSON: But this is not just reforming a government. This is also running a government on the huge international stage in a very dangerous world. When I asked John McCain about your national security credentials, he cited the fact that you have commanded the Alaskan National Guard and that Alaska is close to Russia. Are those sufficient credentials?
PALIN: But it is about reform of government and it's about putting government back on the side of the people, and that has much to do with foreign policy and national security issues Let me speak specifically about a credential that I do bring to this table, Charlie, and that's with the energy independence that I've been working on for these years as the governor of this state that produces nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy, that I worked on as chairman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, overseeing the oil and gas development in our state to produce more for the United States.
GIBSON: I know. I'm just saying that national security is a whole lot more than energy.
PALIN: It is, but I want you to not lose sight of the fact that energy is a foundation of national security. It's that important. It's that significant.

Has she ever met a head of foreign state?:

GIBSON: Have you ever met a foreign head of state?
PALIN: There in the state of Alaska, our international trade activities bring in many leaders of other countries.
GIBSON: And all governors deal with trade delegations.
PALIN: Right. GIBSON: Who act at the behest of their governments.
PALIN: Right, right.
GIBSON: I'm talking about somebody who's a head of state, who can negotiate for that country. Ever met one?
Did you know you can actually see Russia from Alaska?
I have listened to the replay of the interview on 3 networks. Her voice sounds shaky to me, like she's nervous. Don't believe me? Try listening without looking at the tv so you just get the sound.
When in doubt, she retreats to the proud mother of son going to Iraq position. As if that makes one qualified to be Vice President.

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